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Oct 18, 11 03:28 pm
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If Bush 'lied' about Saddam's WMD, then guess who else 'lied'?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998


"Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998


"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998


"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton signed by Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry and others, Oct. 9, 1998


"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998


"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999


"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec 5, 2001


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002


"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002


"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002


"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002


"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002


"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


 
Oct 18, 11 10:30 pm
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Reply to Big_T:

Are you not the one who is always crying about how people blame things on Bush?

You play the same blame game..


 
Oct 18, 11 10:46 pm
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Reply to Big_T:

I think you are missing your own point here. If all of these people were lying when they said this stuff then Bush and his people were as well. Even though you are trying to, you can't have it both ways. Bush isn't absolved from his own behavior because other people were doing the same thing. ALL of these people were wrong, misled, incorrect, lying, believed people who were lying to them, or some combination thereof.

The fact that Bill Clinton said Saddam had WMD didn't make it true. The fact that Hillary said it didn't make it true. The fact is that it wasn't true, even though a lot of people were saying otherwise.

The real question you have to ask yourself, because this seems to be your premise here;
Is President George W Bush absolved for being wrong about WMD because Bill & Hillary Clinton were also wrong?

Do two Clinton wrongs make a Bush right?

Ultimate Link Whore

 
Oct 20, 11 01:37 pm
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Reply to Gramps:

I think that YOU'RE Missing the point. You constantly say that GW lead us astray, he was the reason .. and thru his lies of yellow cake and WMD .. only his lies that the US/NATO attacked Iraq .. 'legally' mind you as there was congressional approval.

There were just a few democrats who had said, thought, and were pushing for the same thing. SO if GW as wrong .. weren't Kerry, Hilary, etc .. also to blame .. never hear you mention that too much.

There is also the discount that the nerve gases do not constitute a WMD - that in some peoples eyes missiles and toxic gases do not constitute WMD .. nope .. has to be nuclear weapons.

Somehow you can't even muster very many harsh words towards Obama and the militarily kinetic action in Libya - illegal, as never was voted on by congress.

Shoot if you're so upset about GW ... and some how you voted for Obama .. and will vote for him again .. I see some hypocrisy there myself. I didn't vote for GW his second term, you're going to vote for Obama this election though I bet.

I'm sure you voted for Kerry and Al Gore - their names and quotes are on that list above too.




Oct 19, 11 04:02 pm
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Simple, Democrats ALWAYS lie.

Always!


 
Oct 19, 11 07:37 pm
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Reply to annabanana:

You are right about the simple part.

In any case the topic at hand is Saddam's WMD. A lot of Democrats said Saddam had them, and EVERYONE in the Bush administration said he had them, but it turned out Saddam didn't have them.
Sort this out for those of us who's minds are too complex to fathom the simple rule of yours. Enlighten us how the Democrats were lying, especially when they were saying the same things as Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and so on. And explain for the class here how Bush wasn't lying.

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